tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5937880305824976500.post3424484670383767946..comments2022-10-09T03:37:33.648-04:00Comments on Dr. Dad, PhD: Job indecision will be the death of meDr. Dad, PhDhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00244148018964711614noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5937880305824976500.post-25259351592499210672012-05-02T01:08:06.726-04:002012-05-02T01:08:06.726-04:00Good--I'm glad you've settled on a strateg...Good--I'm glad you've settled on a strategy. And I am glad that you are getting positive feedback along the way, too!Cynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5937880305824976500.post-61510324685264270552012-05-01T13:40:22.628-04:002012-05-01T13:40:22.628-04:00The game sucks. But unfortunately I have to work w...The game sucks. But unfortunately I have to work within the system that is given to me. My kids need to eat, and I want to do science. <br /><br />I've always tried not to be a jerk when I've left jobs (for whatever reason). In this case, I think that it will be clear that any alternative that I accept will be clear improvement - either in position or project or institution. <br /><br />I can't control how they react, but I always strive for the higher ground.Dr. Dad, PhDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00244148018964711614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5937880305824976500.post-7567000665525020192012-04-30T21:42:11.323-04:002012-04-30T21:42:11.323-04:00What FeMOMhist said. Having been on the market eve...What FeMOMhist said. Having been on the market every damn year for 5 years, play the game. There's so little loyalty on the employer's part anymore, that you being loyal isn't going to pay. Just don't be a jerk when you leave a job (you can't control if they react poorly.)rented lifenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5937880305824976500.post-26845907358605212202012-04-30T09:27:08.935-04:002012-04-30T09:27:08.935-04:00This is the same point my very, very patient mento...This is the same point my very, very patient mentor was/is trying to stress to me. Although I feel smarmy playing the field, I think it is a necessary evil and honestly the healthiest thing for my family. I just have to keep it professional and on a business, keeping personal feelings and emotions out of it. <br /><br />To be fair, I'm not planning to start for another 4-5 months, so I could go to job #2 and leave plenty of time for #1 to start another search. As for #2, it would be soft money no matter what was offered.Dr. Dad, PhDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00244148018964711614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5937880305824976500.post-90745910757485706112012-04-30T09:20:09.068-04:002012-04-30T09:20:09.068-04:00It does seem that it takes having a job offer to g...It does seem that it takes having a job offer to get another offer. Not sure how the cosmos knows such things, but good news begets more good news, I suppose. :)Dr. Dad, PhDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00244148018964711614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5937880305824976500.post-90255467881180092902012-04-30T09:19:07.064-04:002012-04-30T09:19:07.064-04:00Sorry for the slow response - I needed a little ti...Sorry for the slow response - I needed a little time to attempt to decompress with my family. I didn't totally achieve the meditative/relaxation state I was striving for, but I came in to work today with a renewed sense of purpose. So I suppose it worked....<br /><br />In the short term, I have a strategy, but it involves playing the field a lot more that I would normally feel comfortable with. Essentially, I will say yes to #1 and wait on #2 (or even #3). It's safest thing for me and my family to do. <br /><br />#2 already knows I have an offer and knows many more details than I revealed here. What started out as a conversation turned quickly into mentoring and eventually included a discussion of "what they could do for me" because they could see that I "have a great future and a great potential for incredible science." Makes me blush a bit to recount it, but man was I grateful to hear it...Dr. Dad, PhDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00244148018964711614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5937880305824976500.post-77147884218615277022012-04-30T08:25:27.883-04:002012-04-30T08:25:27.883-04:00here is the sad fact both institutions of Job #1 a...here is the sad fact both institutions of Job #1 and #2 would eff u over if they needed to. I too disliked the whole "gaming" of academia but hey we decided to get in the game. So you know what? I sucked it up, got a job offer I knew I would never take, and renegotiated for a better title at the job I kept. It's BS, wrong and not fair, but it is how higher ed works. Focus on the institutions, which will employ you, not the individuals, who are colleagues. So you know what, take #1 and if #2 comes up, take it too. Grant review is grant review so I doubt you'll be able to get #2 to go any faster. They can't hire until they are funded (this is for soft money position, right?)feMOMhisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17192104351023271207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5937880305824976500.post-8706914632707725772012-04-29T00:47:38.682-04:002012-04-29T00:47:38.682-04:00I was unemployed for 3 months, got quite discourag...I was unemployed for 3 months, got quite discouraged, and then got two good offers in the same week (and a interview invite for a third equally good opportunity came soon after). I was indecisive but eventually weighed the pros and cons in light of my goals, and couldn't be happier with my decision now. And I did have to do the awkward dance a bit while making a decision, it's a part of the game. So definitely think carefully, but don't forget to take the time to celebrate too! And I agree with the previous comment - can you let the second place know that you already have an offer on the table to get them to make a decision quicker?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5937880305824976500.post-51027068025084933752012-04-27T18:44:12.106-04:002012-04-27T18:44:12.106-04:00Even good things can cause anxiety, so of course t...Even good things can cause anxiety, so of course this is stressing you out! Hope that the second one clarifies itself soon so you can make a decision. Would it be possible to let the people involved with the second one know that you have an offer on the table and have to make a decision? Just to...you know...push things along?Cynhttp://inorderly.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com